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sanger
11-03-2003, 09:39 PM
Which would be better ATS turbo housing with stock wheel or
Banks wheel in the same housing?

PAUL ROTHMAN
11-04-2003, 07:02 PM
I just installed the ats turbo housing with the stock wheel & the banks exhaust housing. I gained about 7 to 9lbs of boost with this combination. If you change the wheel the turbo needs to be rebalanced. By doing the upgrade your egt's will drop & the surge will be gone.

sanger
11-04-2003, 07:30 PM
How much boost do you get? I already have the banks exhaust
housing,wheel and power elbow is it possible to improve this?

PAUL ROTHMAN
11-04-2003, 09:45 PM
My truck makes 27 to 28lbs of boost. I like the ats housing because the stock housing has a 3in opening & the ats housing is a 4in opening. The more air that comes in the more power & boost the engine will make.

sanger
11-05-2003, 11:35 AM
How much work is it to install a ATS housing and do you need to pull the turbo out?

PAUL ROTHMAN
11-05-2003, 09:31 PM
When Max help with my truck will pulled the turbo out because we were changing the instake & exhaust. So I am not sure if it can be done in the truck.

bigfish
11-06-2003, 11:05 PM
I'm not sure I understood corectly, but I was told you need to use your stock wheel. I was told not to use the banks wheel?? http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/confused.gif

Big Red PSD CC
11-07-2003, 12:04 AM
You can run either wheel.

Thing is that the "banks" wheel will result in lower boost levels.

The "banks" wheel is the early 99 (small turbo) wheel. Its cheap and does remove the surge issue, but does cause lower boost.

The ATS housing removes the surge, and increases the airflow and intake size. Thus the Banks wheel isn't needed.

However, the Banks wheel does "whistle" more than using the stock wheel.

Key is no matter what wheel you use, be sure the assembly is balanced if the wheel is removed.......NO MATTER WHAT!!!!

As for installing the ATS housing, take off the intake ducts from the air filter to turbo. Take off the clamp that holds the "intake housing" to the "intake y"....and then remove the 5 bolts (can be done with the turbo on the truck)...and install the ATS housing, and bolt it all back up. Use the new intake hose given in the kit, and your set. http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/smile.gif

bigfish
11-07-2003, 01:55 AM
So I need to get a stock wheel, anybody interested in helping get it balanced and installed, willing to consempate.

bigfish
11-07-2003, 08:21 AM
OOPS, that was compensate, $$$, brain fart,thanks

sanger
11-07-2003, 03:53 PM
So if I put a stock wheel in the ATS housing how much boost
can I get and will I get some more power out this pig?

knuckledrager
11-08-2003, 06:01 PM
sanger,
I put the ATS housing on with my stock wheel and get 19/20 lbs of boost at WOT while towing my house.
Oley http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/smile.gif

Big Red PSD CC
11-09-2003, 08:59 AM
I used to get 32-36 with the ATS and stock wheel, with Banks exhaust.

knuckledrager
11-09-2003, 08:32 PM
I used to get 32-36 with the ATS and stock wheel, with Banks exhaust.



Max,
Doyathink that maybe the TS 'INSANE' http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/bigshock.gif Chip might have sumthin to do widat? http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/burnout.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/burnout.gif
Oley

sanger
11-09-2003, 08:51 PM
Is that 32-36 with stock injectors?

PITBULL62
11-09-2003, 10:04 PM
I best stop reading this thread, Im starting to get that 'emptying wallet' feeling.

weweld
11-09-2003, 10:18 PM
I best stop reading this thread, Im starting to get that 'emptying wallet' feeling.



An empty wallet is a happy truck http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/yay.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/yay.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/yay.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/yay.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/yay.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/yay.gif

CHEF GENE http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/burnout.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/usa.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/yay.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/flame.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/yay.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/hungry.gif

PITBULL62
11-09-2003, 10:27 PM
I guess my truck will be happy this Wednesday. New tire day!!(insert broke *ss gremlin here) http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/grin.gif

Billet Badges
11-10-2003, 10:20 AM
You better add that new exhaust system on when you do the turbo as well. That way your wallet stays REALLY thin. http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/crazy.gif

PITBULL62
11-10-2003, 11:25 AM
http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/lol.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/lol.gif As it is now, I use those credit card wallets to hold my money. Wonder if they make smaller ones. Either that or Levis with no pockets?

woodman
11-10-2003, 09:28 PM
I don,t know about money because I don,t have any!As about the compressor wheel I have installed about 75-100 of them.At first I was worried about balance but has never been a problem.I currently have a ATS housing on my 99 truck with stock wheel and have had the 83mm init before.I can still reach 34lbs of with both,but I do program my own chips.The boost does stay more consistent when the trans shifts gear with the bigger wheel as far witch is better I can,t decide.I plain to install the ATS ballbearing turbo. I will ya guys know how that goes.

woodman

weweld
11-10-2003, 09:50 PM
Woodman
Who's chips are you using http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/shrug.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/shrug.gif

CHEF GENE http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/burnout.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/usa.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/yay.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/flame.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/yay.gif http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/hungry.gif

sanger
11-12-2003, 08:47 AM
Is that 83mm wheel something different then stock? The stock wheel is 80mm if i'm not mistaken.

woodman
11-12-2003, 11:25 PM
Gene

the chip software I use is Diablo Sport.Iam a programing dealer witch means I can do a lot of things.One is if I don,t like a certain flie I can change it,sometimes I change my truck every night before I leave the shop.The other thing if Iam buiding a trans I don.t want the chip controling presure rise,The trans is built with the right presure.

Sanger

The 83mm wheel is nothing more than a stock early 99.Banks makes this out to be a big thing however,they do work good in a truck with a automatic trans and can be bought cheap from other suppliers. when you guys get to know me you will see fords are in my blood, Iam not just another tranny Guy!

thank for listing Woodman.

sanger
11-14-2003, 09:07 PM
I have the banks wheel & exhaust housing in my truck so is the wheel the same 83mm & how can I get 34 of boost?

Big Red PSD CC
11-14-2003, 10:57 PM
Yes the banks is the 83mm (early 99). You need FUEL!!!!! to get the 34psi.

sanger
11-17-2003, 11:55 AM
So how do I go about getting more fuel?

BrianC
11-17-2003, 05:59 PM
So how do I go about getting more fuel?



Add a chip, or injectors, or both.

Big Red PSD CC
11-17-2003, 07:58 PM
A hotter chip and bigger injectors!!!

sanger
11-17-2003, 09:29 PM
Can you just have a programer change fueling on chip to increase boost?
Like let say Banks 90HP,TS performance 140HP, or Bully Dog 125HP.

Big Red PSD CC
11-17-2003, 10:36 PM
You would need to have to tell the person what ya have and what ya plan to run, and they can make up some narly stuff. As for Banks.....don't expect it to run hard....the Banks stuff is run of the mill, everyday whatever stuff, not the kind of chip to make the big numbers.

frostyjhammer
12-02-2003, 03:01 PM
I currently have a ATS housing on my 99 truck with stock wheel



Woodman, I've heard the ATS housing won't work with my early '99 PSD. http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/frown.gif
Did you rig an adapter of some sort? http://www.socaps.comimages/graemlins/peace.gif