Thread: Truck went into Limp Mode. Codes thrown are F2285 & F2286.

Hey Guys and Gals Pull up a chair and have a seat....I have a 2006 F-550 SD 6.0 PSD with auto trans that is completely stock, ie no aftermarket performance products have been added nor stock equipment deleted from the truck.

So I'm on my way to work last night, truck was running fine but then I looked down at the dash and noticed the engine wrench idiot light had illuminated. "Great Now WTF is going on!!" i calmly and quietly thought to myself. Truck was running fine so I decided (love it when I can play boss and make them big decisions) to continue heading towards work. Arrived at work, truck was shut off for maybe an hour or so before having to move it to the next location, I started the truck, it ran fine and the wrench idiot light had gone away. Truck was moved another 7 or 8 times through out the evening with no Wrench Idiot light to be seen. Finished work and heading home, about 5 minutes into the short drive home the Wrench light illuminated but again the truck was running fine so I continued home. 10 minutes into the ride home she starts slowly loosing power, spittin and sputterin along with another fun light illuminated on the dash, the good ol engine idiot light. At this point the truck would barely go 15 MPH so I got off the Freeway to check things out, checked my owners manual to find out what the two lights illuminating were actually alerting me too. Basically says to Immediately limp it to the nearest dealership for service and inspection.

I get home and hook up the Xcal2 (Left over performance back when I had the 06 Roush Mustang) to see if I had thrown any codes, sure enough 2 codes were there, F2285 and F2286. I've seen and heard about "P" codes and "U" codes but haven't came across "F" Codes until today. Love it when I'm the first guy on the block to get or have something special happen to them, such a friggen rush!!! lol

Any body here that can clue me into what these codes are and what my trucks issue might be? Any Help will be greatly appreciated. I have to somehow figure out how to get this truck running since It needs to be on the road again tonight. I know I can't due it solely on my own so am hoping that collectively together we may "Get Er Done!"

thanks, Les

edit for codes thrown. P2285 and P2286 are the codes opposed to F2285 and F2286. Bad LCD on my Xcal, funny how one little vertical line can change the whole meaning of what your viewing.

Anyone?? Ev1 still at work I suppose......

Has an over boost code pcm will derate until engine is shut off but will store code in pcm. It could be sticking unison ring or turbo got in a weird position that caused an over boost. Try another scan tool f prefix must be from the xcal.

Icp low and icp high. Start with checking the connector or bad sensor. Check your oil also.

I think it is a p code, maybe the reader has a bad read out on it.....???

yes, I've just spoken to a 17 year ford master Mechanic and came to the conclusion my Xcal2 may be outta wack since its been on the shelf for just about 3 years since I had to sell my mustang. Anyway, thanks for the responses I appreciate the help. I have a Ford Mechanic coming to my house tomorrow to diagnose the situation. Weird thing is, after returning home via limp mode I parked the truck in the driveway went in the house to check the inside of my eyelids for a few hours. When I went back out to the truck I started it, let it warm up a bit and took it for a drive it ran perfectly like nothing was ever askew. Go figure. The damn Wrench Idiot light did illuminate about 5 minutes into the drive but the Check Engine Light never did illuminate as it was earlier on my drive in from work. Have to see what the Ford Mech has to say tomorrow. Again, thanks for the replies....Much Grassy Ass...

Prob gona be p0234 over boost code that and p012f are the only two codes that illuminate wrench lamp.

Originally Posted by socalocman03

yes, I've just spoken to a 17 year ford master Mechanic and came to the conclusion my Xcal2 may be outta wack since its been on the shelf for just about 3 years since I had to sell my mustang. Anyway, thanks for the responses I appreciate the help. I have a Ford Mechanic coming to my house tomorrow to diagnose the situation. Weird thing is, after returning home via limp mode I parked the truck in the driveway went in the house to check the inside of my eyelids for a few hours. When I went back out to the truck I started it, let it warm up a bit and took it for a drive it ran perfectly like nothing was ever askew. Go figure. The damn Wrench Idiot light did illuminate about 5 minutes into the drive but the Check Engine Light never did illuminate as it was earlier on my drive in from work. Have to see what the Ford Mech has to say tomorrow. Again, thanks for the replies....Much Grassy Ass...

Let us know. Always like to learn.

although not repaired yet the Ford Mechanic (made a house call mind you) that came to my house this past Saturday has concluded that the Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor has gone bad. He did note that he hadn't ever came across this particular part going bad BUT it is possible. Now the hunt is on for an accelerator Pedal which contains the Positioning Sensor (that NEVER goes bad so why would anyone stock it on their shelf) part. I'm in So Cal Orange County area if anyone knows where I might locate an Accelerator Assy Part Number 9F836 Clue me in so I can get this darn truck running...

thanks

Les

Even though mine is an 03. Im on my forth pedal. I carry a spare.

Les....

I would think you are aware that Sunrise Ford, Fontana gives a nice price discount to SoCAPS members and can probably get the part for you.

Post what you need in this thread: Sunrise Ford Parts Discount

They will either have it in stock or be able to tell what the availability is.
Sunrise will put the part on will call at the Parts counter or ship it to you.

I am aware of Sunrise Dealership, wasn't aware of our discount as members of SoCaps, am now. I think my mechanic got my parts at cost or maybe below, I say this due to I recall him replying with $78.00 bucks when I asked him if it was like $180.00 which is the price I had expected. I'm O.K with his price....:) I'll get the pedal tomorrow, was suppose to be in this afternoon but as my luck goes the pedal didn't make it into the shipment they received even though he said it was on the parts list of items that were shipped. I sure hope it is the Position Sensor, I can't afford to have this truck sitting costing me money as opposed to out making me money. Lost 3 days already, tonight will be 4 and tomorrow......well you get the picture....lol "Perks of being in business for yourself" dad (R.I.P) would always say.. and then Chuckle a bit.

just an update to my saga. The mechanic showed up with the parts to fix the 6.0 yesterday evening, he put the kit on the fuel filter to fix the fuel leak but had brought the wrong accelerator pedal (so I thought cause it loooooked different than the original pedal). He took a look at the new pedal and quickly agreed with me that it in fact was the wrong pedal, good lord another nights work missed. He said he'd call me today when the right part came in but come 5 PM I hadn't received that call so being the pest that I am called him. When I asked him if the right part had come in he informed me that the one he had the prior evening was actually the correct part, What???!!! I even hooked it up to another 6.0 today and checked to make sure it was He tells me!!! WTH??? Why didn't you just hook it up to MY 6.0 the prior evening to see if it was or wasn't the correct part?? Is it just me or does it seem as though in most all professions anymore it is Difficult to find a man or a woman that has genuine pride in there profession? Pride in there ability to accomplish things that would just leave most others scratching there head looking puzzled? The person not just there to collect a paycheck but a person that Loves what they do and enjoys being there helping teaching and learning from others. Sorry, I digress...... How would he not have known this the prior evening?? Now granted I being the Lehman here jumped the gun after noting the difference in the size and construction of the two pedals immediately assumed "Wrong Part" but one would think he as the mechanic, a Diesel Specialist mind you should know better than I if parts are interchangeable or not but he didn't, he just jumped in my sinking boat agreeing with me that it was "Wrong Part". :shocked:

Jump ahead to this evening when the new pedal showed up here at the house. He dropped it off, I was putting it on myself so he collected the rest of his money due to him, inquired if I had decided to have him check out my injectors and fuel pressure situation? I had asked him what would cause my truck to Idle real rough in the A.M. and take 10 minutes or better before it warms up enough to head down the road? Never was like that before so I figured sumpin must be going on??? I told him it need to be checked out so call me when he has time to check it out. Call him he says if this current problem is in fact not fixed with replacing the Accelerator Sensor. Huh?? Ya sayin this might NOT be the problem??? NICE!!! Anyway, the pedal is on, I'm driving down the road checking to see if it is fixed and YUP you guessed it, not but about 5 minutes into the drive and the friggen wrench light illuminates, shortly after the engine light illuminates and then she starts spiitin and sputterin followed by limp mode engaging. Not sure if you all realize this but I look really really cool (I guess everybody does) creeping along at a snails pace trying to get back home while people Honk as if that's gonna get this Friggen F-550 to magically not be in front of them, then as they as they pass along side me most make it a point of Showing me I'm number one....Have a Nice day there Mr. impatient person I say with a smile as they pass. Ignorance (actually stupidity) is of abundance here in Cali especially when it comes to its drivers.

So, I check for codes with my I think Not working properly Xcal2 and it finds 1 DTC which is P2286 "ICP Injector control pressure sensor circuit high ICP signal is higher than specified value". When the issue first happened I pulled 2 DTC's, the P2286 along with P2285 "ICP Injector control pressure sensor circuit low ICP signal is lower than specified value" which I don't understand how them to particular Codes could be occurring simultaneously?? A lower and a higher than specified value condition within the same circuit seems a little bit on the impossible side unless of course there not occurring simultaneously but actually occurred one then the other. ?? IDK

Where to go from here?? At this point my confidence level with this Ford Diesel Mech is not off the charts by any standards what with the little accelerator pedal fiasco and more so that at the end of the 4 days being down replacing the "BAD" part didn't even fix the problem. So Annoying!! Not necessarily Annoyed at the mechanic, I suppose we all go with the process of elimination, most likely to least likely repair scenario from time to time but one should expect a more cost effective approach via a professional mechanic other than throwing good money at suspect parts for no reason other than to eliminate them as suspects only to find out the "Bad" part was actually a good serviceable part. I suppose the good news is that I now have a Spare Accelerator Pedal and Positioning Sensor!!! Woo Hoo!!! If I continue this Crap Shoot way of troubleshooting and repair it could get real expensive real quick with the 6-O not being the Budget Friendly Vehicle we had all hoped for. Well, I hoped for it, not real sure if others did, I can only speculate...lol Silver lining with this repair mentality.... In the end I should have enough "Bad" parts that end up being good parts to maybe build myself a second 6.0, not that I'll need it, hell I won't even need this one if it doesn't get on the road making some money REAL Soon.

Thanks for listening to my ramblings and for any input, suggestions, ideas, thoughts, speculations, theories etc. etc. etc. you may have to help in my quest. Please don't hesitate to enlighten me as to the direction I should be heading to fix this what in the beginning appeared to be a minor issue with an easy fix that has quickly turned into a major headache. This is my bread and butter. With our economy being in the state its in now more than ever the financial impact of each passing day it's not on the road making money is .......well...... it's not a GOOD Thing we'll leave it at that.....:)

Thanks guys and gals for the shoulder........Les

Originally Posted by domesticdiesel

Prob gona be p0234 over boost code that and p012f are the only two codes that illuminate wrench lamp.

If the truck didn't go into limp mode I'd have it in your shop already getting Fixed as opposed to sitting in my driveway wondering what to do next. I live in Buena Park so fairly close to your shop but way to far to try and limp it in. You stated that the only two codes/conditions that will trigger the "Wrench" idiot light is P0234 and P012f but I have the "Wrench" and "Engine" idiot lights illuminating with codes P2285 and P2286 being the thrown codes?? The codes mean the same (codes u listed compared to codes I listed) thing but are coded different for different years of trucks or all the codes and their respective meanings the same through out all the model years?

Thanks, Les

Did you check the wiring for the icp like i posted 7 days ago? Look at it closely. They can melt together or look for oil coming throgh the sensor. If it is replace both. Also, unplug the icp when it happens and see how it runs...

Les....

I feel your frustration and refer you to an old saying:
"When you are in a hole, stop digging!"

Instead of doing this hit and miss, maybe it's time to bite the bullet and have it towed or limped to Domestic Diesel (or comparable shop). John at Domestic has the knowledge, experience, and equipment to fix it right the first time. From my experience with him, I would also say he has the integrity to do you right!! That means a lot to me!!

As you said, you can keep tossing parts at the problem hoping they will fix it...and if they don't, you will have less money and one heck of a parts inventory. I've found that spending money to fix it right and get it done is often cheaper than hit and miss unless you are real lucky!

Just as a note: I have extended Automobile Club towing for just this case. Last year I had a problem I couldn't diagnose and the truck wouldn't run, so I had it towed the 60 miles from Glendale to Sunrise Ford, Fontana. They diagnosed and fixed the problem in 10 minutes and I was back in business!

And, I'm sure I'm not the only one who is curious...what kind of diesel mechanic makes house calls? Come on...is this guy your brother or some relative?? And, this mechanic may be a diesel specialist, but is he a Ford Power Stroke specialist?...don't bother, I think I can answer that! ;)

I sincerely hope you get it fixed!!!!