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  1. 05-08-2007 08:30 PM #1
    Eagle0ne
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    Is it Beneficial to install a DP tuner even if you already have an EDGE?

    I have an edge juice w/attitude tuner stacked with evelution and like it. But I read frequently that the DP and SCT tuners are great!!! Will I benefit changing out at this point? Or would some other mods be money better spent.
    By the way their is an upgraded version that does the following,

    Any comments please!
    PIDS
    The Evolution allows the user to view up to 4 PIDs at one time. There are 11 different PIDs to choose from. Below is a list and description of each:
    • RPM (revolutions per minute) – Engine speed.
    • MPH (miles per hour) – Note: Dash display may be +/-3 MPH off from the digital display due to mechanical differences in the spring, etc. used to control the gauge.
    • ECT (engine coolant temperature) – Degrees F.
    • BST (Boost Pressure) - PSI
    • EGT (Exhaust Gas Temp) – Degrees F.
    • EOT (Engine oil temperature) – Degrees F.
    • TFT (Transmission fluid temperature) – Degrees F. (Automatic Trans ONLY. If you have a manual trans, the value displayed will be incorrect)
    • IAT (Intake air temperature) – Degrees F.
    • BARO (Barometric pressure) – PSI
    • BAT (Battery voltage)
    • DTC (Diagnostic trouble code count)
    - F350 4x4 auto 7.3 PSD, LB, CC, Silver, yr 2000,
    - Weekend Warrior FSW2800 gel coat.
    [name] - John Eagle.
    - GARRET GTP38R BB TURBO.
    - 6.0 Spearco Intercooler.
    - TERMINATOR twin pumps.
    - D.I. FUEL system.
    - D.P. 10 postion, Jody live, Custom Tune @ J.W's.
    - AFE (stage 2) Intake. W/Pre Filter.
    - AFE 4/5" T/B Exhaust.
    - BANKS, Power Elbow & D/PIPE.
    - John Wood 4R100 Transmission. "Tow Master".
    - O'size Oil Cooler, new 6.0 Tourqe/Converter, Trans lock up Switch.
    - MAG-HYTEK Transmission Pan = extra 8 quarts of Oil.
    - MAG-HYTEK DIFF COVERS = 2 ex quarts.
    - PILLAR GAUGES x4.. Trans oil.. W'Temp.. Boost.. EGT's.
    - NITTO TERRA Grappler (315-75 r16's).
    - Leveling kit, small lift.
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  2. 05-09-2007 01:41 PM #2
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    i had the same set up on my 7.3 and sold it all to go to dp and would do it again in a heartbeat. the dp tuner is way better and the tc-lock on it makes a world of a difference im now laying down about 6ft of rubber when shifting from 1st to 2nd in a stock tranny and im only onthe 60hp tow. with no break boosting.
    2001 FORD F350 4 DOOR LONG BED, 7.3L, 8" SKYJACKER LIFT, 35" BFG ALL TERAINS ON 17" AMERICAN RACING BLACK TEFLON COATED THUG WHEELS 4" RBP EXHAUST NO MUFFLER OR CAT TO 5" SINGLE STACK, DP TUNER, BOOST TUBE, FUEL SHIM, ARIAD INTAKE, JOHN WOODS TRANNY W/6.4 TQ, IDM MOD.155,000 MILES AND RUNS LIKE A CHAMP!!
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  3. 05-09-2007 05:10 PM #3
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    Bigfast thats great thanks for the respond, I'm towing with it DOES IT HELP WHEN TOWING..... does it come with a EGT - BOOST GAGES. and can you change on the fly.
    - F350 4x4 auto 7.3 PSD, LB, CC, Silver, yr 2000,
    - Weekend Warrior FSW2800 gel coat.
    [name] - John Eagle.
    - GARRET GTP38R BB TURBO.
    - 6.0 Spearco Intercooler.
    - TERMINATOR twin pumps.
    - D.I. FUEL system.
    - D.P. 10 postion, Jody live, Custom Tune @ J.W's.
    - AFE (stage 2) Intake. W/Pre Filter.
    - AFE 4/5" T/B Exhaust.
    - BANKS, Power Elbow & D/PIPE.
    - John Wood 4R100 Transmission. "Tow Master".
    - O'size Oil Cooler, new 6.0 Tourqe/Converter, Trans lock up Switch.
    - MAG-HYTEK Transmission Pan = extra 8 quarts of Oil.
    - MAG-HYTEK DIFF COVERS = 2 ex quarts.
    - PILLAR GAUGES x4.. Trans oil.. W'Temp.. Boost.. EGT's.
    - NITTO TERRA Grappler (315-75 r16's).
    - Leveling kit, small lift.
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  4. 05-09-2007 08:26 PM #4
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    DP can be programmed at 5 levels for different power settings. It also can be set at a setting that will stop the truck from being started. (Great for keeping your ride where you want it). You can shift on-the-fly with DP and it is best when installed with John Wood's transmission and conversion. Ratios can change performance when climbing under full load but for most applications you will feel an instant response when drive your truck after the conversion(s).
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  5. 05-09-2007 10:07 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRW
    DP can be programmed at 5 levels for different power settings. It also can be set at a setting that will stop the truck from being started. (Great for keeping your ride where you want it). You can shift on-the-fly with DP and it is best when installed with John Wood's transmission and conversion. Ratios can change performance when climbing under full load but for most applications you will feel an instant response when drive your truck after the conversion(s).
    what ??? what do you mean programed....my dp chip only has a knob there you chose which setting you want thats it.....and further more i would not trade it for any other chip period,....and even further more ...my truck wouldnt even dream of breaking loose in the 60 setting not even in the 80 setting....what else arnt you telling us........
    2001 f250,,cc,,sb,,4x4,,7.3 diesel,,4 in exhaust-muff delete,,dp 6 pos chip,,zoodad-wraped air return,,weld wheels,,toyo mt tires,,pro comp ladder bars,,air bags,,3 extra leaf spring kit,,buggy rack,,john wood tranmission-6.4 torque converter.......yaaaaaaahhhh.............
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  6. 05-10-2007 10:44 AM #6
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    nothing i swear. i even broke the tires loose while pulling my 16ft dbl axle trailer. the programmer plugs into your pcm and you can have up to 16 different setting on it. just tell jodey what you are doing and he will set up the fueling and shifting accordingly. i had him set up mine for drag racing so my tc lock up it set differently.the program changer is a little 1" x 2" box and you just select your setting with the +/- button. and there are no guages.
    2001 FORD F350 4 DOOR LONG BED, 7.3L, 8" SKYJACKER LIFT, 35" BFG ALL TERAINS ON 17" AMERICAN RACING BLACK TEFLON COATED THUG WHEELS 4" RBP EXHAUST NO MUFFLER OR CAT TO 5" SINGLE STACK, DP TUNER, BOOST TUBE, FUEL SHIM, ARIAD INTAKE, JOHN WOODS TRANNY W/6.4 TQ, IDM MOD.155,000 MILES AND RUNS LIKE A CHAMP!!
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  7. 05-10-2007 12:02 PM #7
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    uh....dave... its the same chip you have with the nnew f5 controller. when he says program he means a "tune" which is one setting. and yes jody can program to work with john's vb and work harmoniously. still trying to break my tires loose!! maybe one day.
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  8. 05-10-2007 08:46 PM #8
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    I guess I did not explain those details as I should have.
    It is the new f5 and is 1" x 2" and the files can be tuned
    for specific applications. The most important part of this
    is that the transmission has to be tuned to the engine
    or there could be a major failure (expensive). I know from
    my own experience with an F350 I bought.
    The extra boost has to work with the shifting of the
    trans or they will not work properly.
    The 7.3 wants to pull under a load at 2,200 to 2,600 rpm,
    regardless of your speed (that is what I meant by ratios
    vs pulling speeds). ie Mountain Springs Grade.
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  9. 05-11-2007 08:15 AM #9
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    took my trailer to get some service .. trucks pulls great 7.3s a

    Is Jodey - (john woods)? and gets the programmer from DP then installes... Does he have a dyno for tuning up? and Where is he? I'm in the SFV (san fernando valley 405/101frwy whats my best, & closest resource available to get my tuner tuned and installed, by the way - when I can, I'd also like a new pump or double up with two total and an IC will that get me more PULLING POWER?????? >>>>>>>>
    - F350 4x4 auto 7.3 PSD, LB, CC, Silver, yr 2000,
    - Weekend Warrior FSW2800 gel coat.
    [name] - John Eagle.
    - GARRET GTP38R BB TURBO.
    - 6.0 Spearco Intercooler.
    - TERMINATOR twin pumps.
    - D.I. FUEL system.
    - D.P. 10 postion, Jody live, Custom Tune @ J.W's.
    - AFE (stage 2) Intake. W/Pre Filter.
    - AFE 4/5" T/B Exhaust.
    - BANKS, Power Elbow & D/PIPE.
    - John Wood 4R100 Transmission. "Tow Master".
    - O'size Oil Cooler, new 6.0 Tourqe/Converter, Trans lock up Switch.
    - MAG-HYTEK Transmission Pan = extra 8 quarts of Oil.
    - MAG-HYTEK DIFF COVERS = 2 ex quarts.
    - PILLAR GAUGES x4.. Trans oil.. W'Temp.. Boost.. EGT's.
    - NITTO TERRA Grappler (315-75 r16's).
    - Leveling kit, small lift.
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  10. 05-11-2007 09:27 AM #10
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    John Wood Automotive
    366 Maple Ave.
    Holtville, CA. 92250
    760-356-9421

    He has done all for the work on both of my trucks.
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  11. 05-11-2007 11:33 AM #11
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    dave i think youll be able to break the tires loose if you disconnect your waste-gate!!!
    2001 FORD F350 4 DOOR LONG BED, 7.3L, 8" SKYJACKER LIFT, 35" BFG ALL TERAINS ON 17" AMERICAN RACING BLACK TEFLON COATED THUG WHEELS 4" RBP EXHAUST NO MUFFLER OR CAT TO 5" SINGLE STACK, DP TUNER, BOOST TUBE, FUEL SHIM, ARIAD INTAKE, JOHN WOODS TRANNY W/6.4 TQ, IDM MOD.155,000 MILES AND RUNS LIKE A CHAMP!!
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  12. 05-11-2007 11:49 AM #12
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    hey bigfastford- dont put that propane on if you like your motor.
    2008 6.4l F-250 CC/SB 4x4
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    purchased from Bobby Williams of Sunrise Ford in Fontana. great truck with incredible customer service.
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    why? im only going to run it with a max of a 50 shot.
    2001 FORD F350 4 DOOR LONG BED, 7.3L, 8" SKYJACKER LIFT, 35" BFG ALL TERAINS ON 17" AMERICAN RACING BLACK TEFLON COATED THUG WHEELS 4" RBP EXHAUST NO MUFFLER OR CAT TO 5" SINGLE STACK, DP TUNER, BOOST TUBE, FUEL SHIM, ARIAD INTAKE, JOHN WOODS TRANNY W/6.4 TQ, IDM MOD.155,000 MILES AND RUNS LIKE A CHAMP!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigrpowr
    hey bigfastford- dont put that propane on if you like your motor.
    What is the problem with propane??? I know a few people that have it run w/o problems. I know one guy who torched his '04 6.0 w/ propane but thats a typical 6.0 but my father has a 00' 7.3L w/ several mods. bd chip, propane, and stage 2 injectors that he runs propane on a daily basis with 130,000 miles on it. Not one problem and he installed propane around 50,000 and drives the piss out of it?? Could you fill me in, because i would like to put propane on my truck unless there is something people arent telling me that it is good for you pickup. Thanks
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    If you run propane keep it low , I have a motor with 7 cracked pistons and 1 with a hole in it from to much.
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